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L&rsquo;histoire de Joe et de son test ADN : identification d&rsquo;anc\u00eatres fran\u00e7ais gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 des analyses du chromosome Y et autosomiques"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last\" style=\"--awb-padding-right:8%;--awb-padding-left:8%;--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-margin-top:0px;--awb-margin-bottom:0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy\"><div class=\"fusion-video fusion-vimeo fusion-aligncenter\" style=\"--awb-max-width:600px;--awb-max-height:350px;--awb-width:100%;\"><div class=\"video-shortcode\"><div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top:58.33%;\" ><iframe title=\"Vimeo video player 1\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/512268109?autoplay=0&amp;autopause=0\" width=\"600\" height=\"350\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:40px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-double sep-dotted\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#005b8c;border-color:#005b8c;border-top-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-two\" style=\"--awb-margin-bottom:15px;--awb-margin-top-small:10px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:10px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h2 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.36;\">L&rsquo;histoire de la r\u00e9ussite de Joe en mati\u00e8re d&rsquo;ADN : Des anc\u00eatres fran\u00e7ais identifi\u00e9s \u00e0 l&rsquo;aide de tests sur le chromosome Y et sur l&rsquo;autosome<\/h2><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1 wjb-editors-note\"><p><strong>Note de la r\u00e9daction :<\/strong> Joe d\u00e9crit sa principale d\u00e9couverte g\u00e9n\u00e9tique, qui ne concerne pas la branche des Hart, mais une branche d\u2019anc\u00eatres fran\u00e7ais du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de sa m\u00e8re. Gr\u00e2ce aux archives, il avait retrac\u00e9 l\u2019histoire de son arri\u00e8re-arri\u00e8re-arri\u00e8re-grand-p\u00e8re jusqu\u2019au comt\u00e9 d\u2019\u00c9ri\u00e9, dans l\u2019\u00c9tat de New York, mais n\u2019avait jamais r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 faire le lien avec la France \u2014 jusqu\u2019\u00e0 ce qu\u2019un cousin vivant de cette branche se soumette \u00e0 un test et que son chromosome Y corresponde \u00e0 celui d\u2019une famille potentiellement apparent\u00e9e en France. Je lui ai demand\u00e9 si cela constituait une exception \u00e0 l\u2019utilit\u00e9 g\u00e9n\u00e9rale de l\u2019ADN, et Joe a confirm\u00e9. Il ajoute que les tests autosomiques se sont r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9s utiles pour les g\u00e9n\u00e9rations plus proches, m\u00eame si la plupart de ses correspondances le contactent pour obtenir des informations, plut\u00f4t que l\u2019inverse.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:40px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-double sep-dotted\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#005b8c;border-color:#005b8c;border-top-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:10px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:10px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:30;line-height:1.5;\">Transcription<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2 wjb-transcript\"><p style=\"font-size: .85em; font-style: italic;\">Intervenants : <strong>WJB<\/strong> \u2014 William J. Bowe ; <strong>JH<\/strong> \u2014 Joseph Hart. Transcription \u00e0 partir de l&rsquo;enregistrement ; ponctuation ajout\u00e9e et erreurs d&rsquo;\u00e9coute manifestes corrig\u00e9es. <\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> Il existe donc d\u2019autres utilisations du chromosome Y \u2014 j\u2019en ai eu quelques-unes. J\u2019ai eu recours au test du chromosome Y pour une branche de mes anc\u00eatres fran\u00e7ais du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de ma m\u00e8re. J\u2019ai ainsi d\u00e9couvert des cousins dans cette branche. Je leur ai demand\u00e9 de faire le test. Gr\u00e2ce aux archives, j\u2019ai pu identifier une branche d\u2019une famille potentielle en France qui \u00e9tait li\u00e9e \u00e0 ma propre branche en France. J\u2019ai trouv\u00e9 un cousin encore en vie dans cette branche, qui a lui aussi effectu\u00e9 le test, et l\u2019ADN du chromosome Y de mon cousin correspondait \u00e0 celui de cette autre personne. J\u2019ai ainsi pu identifier mon arri\u00e8re-arri\u00e8re-arri\u00e8re-grand-p\u00e8re en France, alors qu\u2019auparavant, j\u2019avais pu remonter jusqu\u2019au comt\u00e9 d\u2019\u00c9ri\u00e9, dans l\u2019\u00c9tat de New York, mais je n\u2019avais jamais r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 faire le lien avec la France jusqu\u2019\u00e0 ce que je puisse confirmer ce lien gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 l\u2019ADN.      <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> \u00c9tait-ce donc, d\u2019une certaine mani\u00e8re, votre plus grande r\u00e9ussite, si l\u2019on consid\u00e8re les choses sous cet angle concernant l\u2019ADN \u2014 le fait que ce cas se soit d\u00e9marqu\u00e9 comme une exception \u00e0 l\u2019utilit\u00e9 g\u00e9n\u00e9rale de celle-ci ?<\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> Exactement. C&rsquo;est l\u00e0 que r\u00e9side ma principale r\u00e9ussite avec DNA. <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Oui.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> Je dirais qu\u2019il y a eu d\u2019autres avanc\u00e9es int\u00e9ressantes dans le domaine des tests autosomiques. Comme il s\u2019agit de tests autosomiques \u2014 Jimmy et moi avons \u00e9galement effectu\u00e9 notre test autosomique \u2014, je savais d\u00e9j\u00e0 que, notre anc\u00eatre commun remontant \u00e0 dix g\u00e9n\u00e9rations ou plus, Jimmy et moi n\u2019allions pas appara\u00eetre comme des correspondances ADN dans le cadre de ces tests, car ceux-ci ne remontent qu\u2019\u00e0 environ six g\u00e9n\u00e9rations. <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> C&rsquo;est exact.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> Cela n&rsquo;a donc pas \u00e9t\u00e9 une surprise. Mais l&rsquo;utilisation de l&rsquo;ADN autosomique s&rsquo;est av\u00e9r\u00e9e utile pour obtenir certaines informations concernant les g\u00e9n\u00e9rations les plus proches. J&rsquo;esp\u00e8re donc vivement qu&rsquo;un jour, je trouverai une correspondance au sein de ma branche Hart qui en sache plus que moi sur cette branche et qui puisse me dire tout ce que je voudrais savoir \u00e0 son sujet.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Oui.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> En effet, ce qui se passe, c&rsquo;est que la plupart des personnes avec lesquelles j&rsquo;ai des correspondances me contactent pour obtenir des informations.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Oui.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> Et parce que j&rsquo;en sais plus qu&rsquo;eux, puisque je suis la piste des documents depuis des ann\u00e9es.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> C&rsquo;est exact.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> Et donc, en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, j&rsquo;en sais plus sur leur secteur d&rsquo;activit\u00e9 qu&rsquo;ils n&rsquo;en savent sur le mien.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Mais l\u2019un des \u2014<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:40px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-double sep-dotted\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#005b8c;border-color:#005b8c;border-top-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bien que les tests ADN n&rsquo;aient pas \u00e9t\u00e9 d&rsquo;une grande aide pour le c\u00f4t\u00e9 irlandais de sa famille, Joe a r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 retrouver une partie de ses anc\u00eatres fran\u00e7ais gr\u00e2ce aux tests du chromosome Y et de l&rsquo;autosome.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":20581,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"video","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_relevanssi_hide_post":"","_relevanssi_hide_content":"","_relevanssi_pin_for_all":"","_relevanssi_pin_keywords":"","_relevanssi_unpin_keywords":"","_relevanssi_related_keywords":"","_relevanssi_related_include_ids":"","_relevanssi_related_exclude_ids":"","_relevanssi_related_no_append":"","_relevanssi_related_not_related":"","_relevanssi_related_posts":"","_relevanssi_noindex_reason":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1206,1036,710,709,715],"tags":[1075],"class_list":["post-29060","post","type-post","status-publish","format-video","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bill-bowe-sentretient-avec-la-famille","category-c-test-adn","category-hart-fr","category-joseph-christopher-hart-fr","category-videos-de-hart","tag-family-vol-2-fr","post_format-post-format-video"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>34. 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