{"id":29055,"date":"2021-02-15T16:27:26","date_gmt":"2021-02-15T16:27:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wbowe.com\/2021\/02\/15\/du-carnet-de-bebe-au-comte-de-cavan-en-irlande-hart-ou-harte\/"},"modified":"2026-09-12T03:03:55","modified_gmt":"2026-09-12T03:03:55","slug":"du-carnet-de-bebe-au-comte-de-cavan-en-irlande-hart-ou-harte","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wbowe.com\/fr\/2021\/02\/15\/du-carnet-de-bebe-au-comte-de-cavan-en-irlande-hart-ou-harte\/","title":{"rendered":"25. Du \u00ab Baby Book \u00bb au comt\u00e9 de Cavan, en Irlande : s&rsquo;\u00e9crit-il \u00ab Hart \u00bb ou \u00ab Harte \u00bb ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last\" style=\"--awb-padding-right:8%;--awb-padding-left:8%;--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-margin-top:0px;--awb-margin-bottom:0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy\"><div class=\"fusion-video fusion-vimeo fusion-aligncenter\" style=\"--awb-max-width:600px;--awb-max-height:350px;--awb-width:100%;\"><div class=\"video-shortcode\"><div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top:58.33%;\" ><iframe title=\"Vimeo video player 1\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/514718741?autoplay=0&amp;autopause=0\" width=\"600\" height=\"350\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:40px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-double sep-dotted\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#005b8c;border-color:#005b8c;border-top-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-two\" style=\"--awb-margin-bottom:15px;--awb-margin-top-small:10px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:10px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h2 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.36;\">Du carnet de b\u00e9b\u00e9 au comt\u00e9 de Cavan, en Irlande : Hart ou Harte ?<\/h2><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1 wjb-editors-note\"><p><strong>Note de la r\u00e9daction :<\/strong> Joe revient en arri\u00e8re pour \u00e9voquer un troisi\u00e8me document de r\u00e9f\u00e9rence : des notes consign\u00e9es dans un album de b\u00e9b\u00e9 par Joe Defley, le p\u00e8re du cousin germain de son p\u00e8re, qui identifient la branche des Meehan et des McGloin originaire du comt\u00e9 de Leitrim. Joe explique le fonctionnement des centres de g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie des comt\u00e9s irlandais et pr\u00e9cise que son principal int\u00e9r\u00eat \u00e9tait de d\u00e9couvrir d\u2019o\u00f9 venait son arri\u00e8re-grand-p\u00e8re James Hart, puisque la pierre tombale indiquait uniquement le comt\u00e9 de Cavan. Le centre de la ville de Cavan lui a propos\u00e9 deux candidats : un James Harte avec un \u00ab e \u00bb et un James Hart sans. Il a choisi celui sans \u00ab e \u00bb, originaire de la paroisse de Kilbride \u2014 pour d\u00e9couvrir des ann\u00e9es plus tard que le \u00ab e \u00bb n\u2019avait aucune importance.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:40px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-double sep-dotted\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#005b8c;border-color:#005b8c;border-top-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:10px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:10px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:30;line-height:1.5;\">Transcription<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2 wjb-transcript\"><p style=\"font-size: .85em; font-style: italic;\">Intervenants : <strong>WJB<\/strong> \u2014 William J. Bowe ; <strong>JH<\/strong> \u2014 Joseph Hart. Transcription \u00e0 partir de l&rsquo;enregistrement ; ponctuation ajout\u00e9e et erreurs d&rsquo;\u00e9coute manifestes corrig\u00e9es. <\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> D&rsquo;accord, permettez-moi de revenir un peu en arri\u00e8re et de mentionner \u00e9galement l&rsquo;autre document que j&rsquo;ai re\u00e7u et qui m&rsquo;a \u00e9t\u00e9 utile : il s&rsquo;agissait de quelques notes tir\u00e9es d&rsquo;un carnet de b\u00e9b\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Hum hum.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> J\u2019ai un demi-cousin au premier degr\u00e9, qui aurait \u00e9t\u00e9 le demi-cousin de mon p\u00e8re. Et le p\u00e8re de ce cousin, \u00e0 la naissance de son fils, tenait un album de b\u00e9b\u00e9 dans lequel il avait not\u00e9 quelques informations sur ses anc\u00eatres irlandais. Il s\u2019agissait de Joe Defley. Ainsi, pendant mon enfance, j\u2019ai beaucoup entendu parler de Joe Defley, mais je n\u2019ai jamais su exactement quel \u00e9tait le lien. Quoi qu\u2019il en soit, ce sont ses notes tir\u00e9es de cet album de b\u00e9b\u00e9 qui ont permis d\u2019identifier une certaine branche \u2013 qui aurait \u00e9t\u00e9 celle de la grand-m\u00e8re de Joe Defley \u2013 \u00e0 savoir la branche Meehan McGloin du comt\u00e9 de Leitrim. Ainsi, lorsque je suis enfin arriv\u00e9 en Irlande et que je me suis install\u00e9, j\u2019ai commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 chercher ce que je pouvais d\u00e9couvrir. Parmi les premi\u00e8res sources que j\u2019ai utilis\u00e9es pour entamer mes recherches figuraient les registres paroissiaux. Chaque comt\u00e9 d\u2019Irlande dispose d\u2019un centre de g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie. On l\u2019appelle parfois \u00ab Centre d\u2019histoire familiale \u00bb, mais chaque comt\u00e9 dispose d\u2019au moins un de ces centres o\u00f9 les gens peuvent se rendre, remplir un formulaire avec quelques informations, et le personnel du centre g\u00e9n\u00e9alogique passe alors les registres au crible pour vous remettre un rapport. Ainsi, comme les informations dont je disposais au d\u00e9part concernaient plut\u00f4t la branche des Canavan, ces autres notes tir\u00e9es du livre de b\u00e9b\u00e9 m\u2019ont permis d\u2019identifier cette branche des Meehan-McGloin. Ma principale question \u00e9tait la suivante : puis-je d\u00e9couvrir d\u2019o\u00f9 venait James Hart en Irlande ? En effet, ces notes issues des informations fournies par votre m\u00e8re, par l\u2019oncle Jim et par le livre de naissance m\u2019ont indiqu\u00e9 o\u00f9 me rendre en Irlande pour d\u00e9couvrir d\u2019o\u00f9 venaient mes anc\u00eatres de ces autres branches ; or, je ne disposais d\u2019aucune information sur les origines de James Hart, si ce n\u2019est que sa pierre tombale indique qu\u2019il \u00e9tait originaire du comt\u00e9 de Cavan. L\u2019une de mes premi\u00e8res d\u00e9marches a donc consist\u00e9 \u00e0 me rendre au centre de g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie de la ville de Cavan, dans le comt\u00e9 de Cavan. \u00c0 un moment donn\u00e9, je suis s\u00fbr d\u2019avoir discut\u00e9 avec des gens que j\u2019avais rencontr\u00e9s \u00e0 Killybegs, et c\u2019\u00e9tait assez int\u00e9ressant d\u2019\u00eatre en Irlande, d\u2019avoir des origines irlandaises, d\u2019aller voir quelqu\u2019un et de lui expliquer que l\u2019on essayait de retracer ses racines irlandaises. Et ils arboraient alors un grand sourire et essayaient de vous raconter tout ce qu\u2019ils savaient sur quiconque portant le nom de Hart, ce qui, en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, ne m\u2019aidait pas du tout, ou ne m\u2019a jamais aid\u00e9. Mais ils \u00e9taient tellement dispos\u00e9s \u00e0 m\u2019aider. L\u2019une des premi\u00e8res choses que j\u2019ai d\u00e9couvertes, c\u2019est qu\u2019il fallait se rendre dans ces centres de g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie, car ce sont eux qu\u2019il faut interroger. Je me suis donc rendu \u00e0 Cavan, au centre de g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie, et j\u2019ai pos\u00e9 des questions sur James Hart. Gr\u00e2ce aux informations figurant sur sa pierre tombale et \u00e0 celles que j\u2019avais recueillies sur son passage aux \u00c9tats-Unis, j\u2019ai pu me faire une id\u00e9e g\u00e9n\u00e9rale de la p\u00e9riode \u00e0 laquelle il \u00e9tait probablement n\u00e9. Je m\u2019y suis donc rendu et on m\u2019a donn\u00e9 deux noms, deux James Hart. Et l\u2019autre chose que j\u2019ai apprise tr\u00e8s t\u00f4t, simplement en consultant l\u2019annuaire t\u00e9l\u00e9phonique, en recherchant le nom de famille Hart dans l\u2019annuaire irlandais, c\u2019est qu\u2019il y avait beaucoup plus de Hart s\u2019\u00e9crivant avec un \u00ab E \u00bb qu\u2019avec ou sans \u00ab E \u00bb \u00e0 la fin. Et je me suis dit : \u00ab Eh bien, c\u2019est significatif, je crois. \u00bb Il s\u2019av\u00e8re que le fait que votre nom se termine par un \u00ab e \u00bb ou non n\u2019a absolument aucune importance. Mais je ne l\u2019ai su que plus tard.                       Lorsque j\u2019ai donc re\u00e7u ces deux noms, l\u2019un \u00e9tait James Harte avec un \u00ab E \u00bb, et l\u2019autre James Hart sans \u00ab E \u00bb. Je me suis alors dit : \u00ab Bon, \u00e7a doit \u00eatre celui sans le \u00ab E \u00bb. \u00bb Mais il n\u2019y avait en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 aucune raison valable de faire une telle distinction, et je ne m\u2019en suis rendu compte que des ann\u00e9es plus tard. Celui que j\u2019avais choisi, celui sans \u00ab e \u00bb, venait d\u2019une paroisse du comt\u00e9 de Cavan appel\u00e9e Kilbride. Cela a donc toujours constitu\u00e9 en quelque sorte le point central de mes recherches sur mon arri\u00e8re-grand-p\u00e8re durant cette premi\u00e8re p\u00e9riode o\u00f9 il \u00e9tait, en quelque sorte, au c\u0153ur de ce que j\u2019esp\u00e9rais d\u00e9couvrir, je suppose.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:40px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-double sep-dotted\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#005b8c;border-color:#005b8c;border-top-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>D&rsquo;abord \u00e0 la recherche de ses anc\u00eatres Hart, Joe s&rsquo;est inspir\u00e9 d&rsquo;un livre de b\u00e9b\u00e9 et a commenc\u00e9 ses recherches au Centre de g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie de Cavan, en Irlande.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":20581,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"video","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_relevanssi_hide_post":"","_relevanssi_hide_content":"","_relevanssi_pin_for_all":"","_relevanssi_pin_keywords":"","_relevanssi_unpin_keywords":"","_relevanssi_related_keywords":"","_relevanssi_related_include_ids":"","_relevanssi_related_exclude_ids":"","_relevanssi_related_no_append":"","_relevanssi_related_not_related":"","_relevanssi_related_posts":"","_relevanssi_noindex_reason":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1037,1206,710,709,715],"tags":[1075],"class_list":["post-29055","post","type-post","status-publish","format-video","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-b-joseph-christopher-hart-demenagement-en-irlande-2003","category-bill-bowe-sentretient-avec-la-famille","category-hart-fr","category-joseph-christopher-hart-fr","category-videos-de-hart","tag-family-vol-2-fr","post_format-post-format-video"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>25. 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