{"id":29050,"date":"2021-02-16T18:18:10","date_gmt":"2021-02-16T18:18:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wbowe.com\/2021\/02\/16\/levenement-de-non-paternite-deni-et-reconciliation\/"},"modified":"2026-09-11T22:22:31","modified_gmt":"2026-09-11T22:22:31","slug":"levenement-de-non-paternite-deni-et-reconciliation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wbowe.com\/fr\/2021\/02\/16\/levenement-de-non-paternite-deni-et-reconciliation\/","title":{"rendered":"36. L&rsquo;\u00e9v\u00e9nement de non-paternit\u00e9 : d\u00e9ni et r\u00e9conciliation"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last\" style=\"--awb-padding-right:8%;--awb-padding-left:8%;--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-margin-top:0px;--awb-margin-bottom:0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy\"><div class=\"fusion-video fusion-vimeo fusion-aligncenter\" style=\"--awb-max-width:600px;--awb-max-height:350px;--awb-width:100%;\"><div class=\"video-shortcode\"><div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\" style=\"padding-top:58.33%;\" ><iframe title=\"Vimeo video player 1\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/512300886?autoplay=0&amp;autopause=0\" width=\"600\" height=\"350\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:40px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-double sep-dotted\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#005b8c;border-color:#005b8c;border-top-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-two\" style=\"--awb-margin-bottom:15px;--awb-margin-top-small:10px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:10px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h2 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.36;\">L\u2019\u00e9v\u00e9nement de non-paternit\u00e9 \u2013 D\u00e9ni et r\u00e9conciliation<\/h2><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1 wjb-editors-note\"><p><strong>Note de la r\u00e9daction :<\/strong> La base de donn\u00e9es plus vaste d\u2019Ancestry.com a permis \u00e0 Joe d\u2019obtenir un \u00e9ventail plus large de correspondances ADN, et leur comparaison avec ses r\u00e9sultats Family Tree DNA a r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9 un \u00e9l\u00e9ment inattendu : un \u00ab cas de non-paternit\u00e9 \u00bb dans la lign\u00e9e du p\u00e8re de sa m\u00e8re, il y a trois g\u00e9n\u00e9rations, o\u00f9 le nom de famille du p\u00e8re n\u2019a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 transmis \u2014 \u00e0 la suite d\u2019une adoption, d\u2019une liaison ou pour une autre raison. Joe d\u00e9crit des ann\u00e9es de d\u00e9ni, esp\u00e9rant que le fait de faire tester davantage de cousins permettrait de sauver la g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie qu\u2019il avait mis tant de temps \u00e0 construire, avant que le poids \u00e9crasant des preuves autosomiques ne l\u2019oblige \u00e0 l\u2019admettre. Je lui ai demand\u00e9 comment il avait r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 l\u2019accepter ; sa r\u00e9ponse a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u2019admettre qu\u2019il avait tout simplement deux familles dans cette lign\u00e9e, plut\u00f4t qu\u2019une seule.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:40px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-double sep-dotted\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#005b8c;border-color:#005b8c;border-top-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:10px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:10px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:30;line-height:1.5;\">Transcription<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2 wjb-transcript\"><p style=\"font-size: .85em; font-style: italic;\">Intervenants : <strong>WJB<\/strong> \u2014 William J. Bowe ; <strong>JH<\/strong> \u2014 Joseph Hart. Transcription \u00e0 partir de l&rsquo;enregistrement ; ponctuation ajout\u00e9e et erreurs d&rsquo;\u00e9coute manifestes corrig\u00e9es. <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Donc, en fin de compte, la base de donn\u00e9es d&rsquo;Ancestry \u00e9tait plus compl\u00e8te, c&rsquo;est bien cela que vous voulez dire ?<\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> Ce n&rsquo;est pas parce qu&rsquo;ils disposent d&rsquo;une base de donn\u00e9es plus importante que \u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> D&rsquo;accord. Oui. <\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> \u2014 ils proposent un \u00e9ventail plus large de correspondances. Et certaines de ces correspondances se sont r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9es significatives lorsque je les ai compar\u00e9es \u00e0 celles que j\u2019avais obtenues chez Family Tree DNA. Cela m\u2019a en effet permis de constater qu\u2019il y avait un cas de non-paternit\u00e9 du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de ma m\u00e8re. Un cas de non-paternit\u00e9 se d\u00e9finit essentiellement par le fait que le nom de famille du p\u00e8re n\u2019est pas transmis \u00e0 un fils ou \u00e0 ses enfants. Cela peut s\u2019expliquer par plusieurs raisons. L\u2019une d\u2019entre elles est l\u2019adoption, une autre est une liaison illicite, des relations sexuelles extraconjugales. Il s\u2019av\u00e8re donc que j\u2019ai un de ces cas dans la lign\u00e9e du p\u00e8re de ma m\u00e8re. Je n\u2019ai pas encore identifi\u00e9 avec certitude de quoi il s\u2019agit, s\u2019il s\u2019agit d\u2019une adoption ou d\u2019un autre type d\u2019\u00e9v\u00e9nement, mais c\u2019est l\u2019ADN autosomique qui a fortement sugg\u00e9r\u00e9 que c\u2019\u00e9tait bien de cela qu\u2019il s\u2019agissait. Cela a donc \u00e9t\u00e9 assez int\u00e9ressant \u00e0 accepter, \u00e0 comprendre et\u2026        <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Oui. Eh bien, je\u2026 <\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> \u2014 j\u2019en suis venu \u00e0 comprendre que, dans cette lign\u00e9e familiale pr\u00e9cise, j\u2019avais en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 deux familles. Cela faisait des ann\u00e9es que je faisais des recherches documentaires sur cette lign\u00e9e. Il s\u2019est av\u00e9r\u00e9 qu\u2019aucun des cousins de cette lign\u00e9e ayant effectu\u00e9 un test ADN ne pr\u00e9sentait de correspondance avec moi. Pendant plusieurs ann\u00e9es, j\u2019ai donc refus\u00e9 d\u2019admettre la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 en me disant : \u00ab Bon, je dois faire tester davantage de cousins. \u00bb Mais cela n\u2019allait pas m\u2019aider, car ce que je constatais d\u2019apr\u00e8s mes r\u00e9sultats d\u2019ADN autosomique, c\u2019\u00e9tait qu\u2019il existait une branche biologique issue de g\u00e8nes allant dans une autre direction, et elle \u00e9tait tr\u00e8s marqu\u00e9e. Et je ne l\u2019ai vraiment admis qu\u2019apr\u00e8s avoir re\u00e7u les r\u00e9sultats d\u2019Ancestry, qui m\u2019ont apport\u00e9 une nouvelle avalanche d\u2019informations g\u00e9n\u00e9tiques m\u2019indiquant qu\u2019on ne peut pas rester dans le d\u00e9ni \u00e9ternellement. Il faut admettre que ce lien est si fort qu\u2019il est l\u00e9gitime de \u2014      <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Oui. Et \u00e0 combien de g\u00e9n\u00e9rations remonte cet \u00e9v\u00e9nement ? Est-il possible de d\u00e9terminer ces \u00e9v\u00e9nements ? <\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> Mon arbre g\u00e9n\u00e9alogique remonte jusqu\u2019\u00e0 mes arri\u00e8re-grands-parents. Cela fait donc trois g\u00e9n\u00e9rations. <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Oui. Donc, si une anomalie de ce genre remonte \u00e0 trois g\u00e9n\u00e9rations, aidez-moi \u00e0 comprendre pourquoi vous avez longtemps \u00e9t\u00e9 confront\u00e9 \u00e0 un probl\u00e8me de d\u00e9ni \u2014 plut\u00f4t que de vous dire : \u00ab Eh bien\u2026 \u00bb <\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> Eh bien, je pense que j\u2019\u00e9tais simplement enlis\u00e9 dans une routine. Je n\u2019\u00e9tais pas tr\u00e8s ouvert d\u2019esprit face \u00e0 ces \u00e9l\u00e9ments de preuve, car j\u2019avais consacr\u00e9 tellement de temps \u00e0 des recherches sur cette branche que je n\u2019\u00e9tais pas dispos\u00e9 \u00e0 me contenter de dire : \u00ab Bon, oubliez tout \u00e7a. \u00bb Et je n\u2019ai pas tout oubli\u00e9 \u2014  <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Oui.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> \u2014 une fois que j&rsquo;ai admis que j&rsquo;avais une branche biologique diff\u00e9rente de ma branche officielle, ou quel que soit le nom que vous souhaitiez lui donner. Et je pense qu&rsquo;on g\u00e8re cela en se disant : \u00ab Bon, j&rsquo;ai deux familles ici. \u00bb <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> Oui.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> Au lieu d\u2019une seule famille, j\u2019en ai deux. Et je pense qu\u2019une fois que l\u2019on voit les choses sous cet angle, on peut en quelque sorte consid\u00e9rer chaque branche comme une entit\u00e9 \u00e0 part enti\u00e8re, sans se dire : \u00ab Bon, c\u2019est celle-l\u00e0 la bonne. \u00bb <\/p>\n<p><strong>WJB :<\/strong> C&rsquo;est vrai. Oui. D&rsquo;accord. Je commence \u00e0 comprendre.   <\/p>\n<p><strong>JH :<\/strong> \u00ab Et c&rsquo;est une erreur. \u00bb<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:40px;margin-bottom:40px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-double sep-dotted\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#005b8c;border-color:#005b8c;border-top-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-sep-clear\"><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joe explique qu&rsquo;un test ADN a r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9 un cas de non-paternit\u00e9 du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de sa m\u00e8re.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":20581,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"video","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_relevanssi_hide_post":"","_relevanssi_hide_content":"","_relevanssi_pin_for_all":"","_relevanssi_pin_keywords":"","_relevanssi_unpin_keywords":"","_relevanssi_related_keywords":"","_relevanssi_related_include_ids":"","_relevanssi_related_exclude_ids":"","_relevanssi_related_no_append":"","_relevanssi_related_not_related":"","_relevanssi_related_posts":"","_relevanssi_noindex_reason":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1206,1036,710,709,715],"tags":[1075],"class_list":["post-29050","post","type-post","status-publish","format-video","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bill-bowe-sentretient-avec-la-famille","category-c-test-adn","category-hart-fr","category-joseph-christopher-hart-fr","category-videos-de-hart","tag-family-vol-2-fr","post_format-post-format-video"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>36. 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